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post Apr 5 2007, 05:55 PM
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How long does everyone hold onto their raw files from their past, completed films? I just realized today I am rather reluctant to let go of all my files, and yet they are taking up lots of gigabytes of space, but if I delete em then ONNOES I can never edit that film again!~!!! EVER!!!

At what time do you feel it is safe to, um...purge? Or do you buy lots of externals and just HOARD?


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post Apr 5 2007, 06:28 PM
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I keep em forever. I store project files and masters on DL+DVD and file them. I store all raw footage and audio on internal 500g harddrives and store them in a cabinet. We use external HD enclosures to access that data temporarily when the drives are not being stored. Pretty soon we are going to move to tape backup when we start shooting at 4k resolutions.


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post Apr 5 2007, 07:51 PM
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I just had to wipe my drive for Unidentified :down:

These raw captures are gigabytes - the only cost effective solution for the non-professional would be exactly what DWP's got with his tier 1 storage - the Dual Layer DVD drive.

He's got all the extra storage because it's his paycheck on the line there, but I think the average Machinimist would really only need optical media backup (and make a copy if you're really paranoid...)

It'll take multiple disks any way you spin it, but the DL-DVD will keep 'em down. You're at 4.7 Gigs with Single layer and it doubles (oh... dual layer... I get it...) to 8.5 GB on a DL disk.


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post Apr 5 2007, 07:51 PM
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4 terrabytes of space... NEVER!!!
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post Apr 5 2007, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (Tristan @ Apr 5 2007, 02:51 PM) *
4 terrabytes of space... NEVER!!!


:blink:

I guess size DOES matter...

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post Apr 5 2007, 08:45 PM
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external HD's come cheap nowadays. I even have an external for all my ripped music.
it keeps the PC nice and clean too :-)


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post Apr 5 2007, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (VaudeVillian @ Apr 5 2007, 01:45 PM) *
external HD's come cheap nowadays. I even have an external for all my ripped music.
it keeps the PC nice and clean too :-)



Dammit I'm going out n buying me another extrenal RIGHT NOW!!!! :dry:


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post Apr 5 2007, 08:52 PM
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Still, the nice thing about burning to backup is that it's not sitting on a drive that you could be using for your current project.

I mean, honestly - how often are you going to go back and use that footage?

Maybe once a year for the Machinima 101 Christmas Party video you're on the committee for?

Burn it and file it away and use the space for the here and now.

(Unless you've got 4 Terrabytes of space... then just leave it... :tongue:)

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post Apr 5 2007, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (stormrager @ Apr 5 2007, 10:22 PM) *
Well what you could do like I do, is build a server that has a massive amount of space. I transfer all my files there and store them forever.

I think I have a total of 32TB worth of space over all my drives and everything so that should be more than enough for anyone. Including me. :)


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post Apr 5 2007, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE (stormrager @ Apr 5 2007, 10:30 PM) *
Well when you have the resources I do then you can do that.

diaf with your resources!
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post Apr 6 2007, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE (stormrager @ Apr 6 2007, 12:13 AM) *
How many times do we have to go through this Tristan?


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post Apr 6 2007, 10:55 PM
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Normally I trash all the files of a project if I look at them and can really tell that I won't be using them again and I know the movie idea has been dropped. There's no point in holding onto stuff like model animations or very specific stuff.
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post Apr 7 2007, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (stormrager @ Apr 6 2007, 11:50 PM) *
Ya like the modelviewer stuff I trash because I can always redo it if i ever need to.

In the subject of redoing stuff, I prefer to ditch old movie projects because if I ever come back to them, I have to remake them, forcing me to learn how it all works again.
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post Apr 8 2007, 07:58 AM
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The reason I keep everything that I work on is so that I can include bits and pieces of different projects into a demo reel. I also like to do behind-the-scenes videos, so keeping every plate from a compositing project comes in handy.


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post May 24 2007, 03:31 AM
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I'm a bit of a pack rat, so I suppose it's no surprise that I keep all my files. I just bought a new 250 gig hard drive to make my ISW3 Trailer. I filled the other one up with Elf On :P


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post May 27 2007, 04:33 PM
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Once the movie is finished and uploaded, I trash all the files, I only keep the photoshops and the sounds FX.
Anyway, I dont have enough space and I sometimes have to delete video files just after finishing a scene to be able to work on the next scene.


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post Aug 11 2007, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (Dead Workers Party @ Apr 5 2007, 09:28 PM) *
I keep em forever. I store project files and masters on DL+DVD and file them. I store all raw footage and audio on internal 500g harddrives and store them in a cabinet. We use external HD enclosures to access that data temporarily when the drives are not being stored. Pretty soon we are going to move to tape backup when we start shooting at 4k resolutions.


Damm, this 4k rocks. As I remember it was the highest suppoerted by now in After Effects. But if things go on, you'll be able to show you movies in IMAX 8k :D But which audience to? The one from cinema? :P

P.S. Also think that External Drive and DVD's (for some future HD-DVD's or Blu-Ray's)


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post Oct 17 2007, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 11 2007, 07:37 PM) *
Damm, this 4k rocks. As I remember it was the highest suppoerted by now in After Effects. But if things go on, you'll be able to show you movies in IMAX 8k :D But which audience to? The one from cinema? :P

P.S. Also think that External Drive and DVD's (for some future HD-DVD's or Blu-Ray's)
Do they really show 8k resolution on IMAX? How's that recorded?
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post Oct 17 2007, 03:53 PM
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Not really 8k, but 10000x7000 pixels. This is somehow done with 70mm film stock being run "sideways" throught the cameras. Not many movies out there can afford filming on such cameras or + 3D.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...AX_camera_1.jpg


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post Oct 21 2007, 04:12 PM
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I keep all of my raw files from Flash cartoons and such on an external hard drive. This way I can take them anywhere as well as keep them off my main computer. It actually works out really nicely.
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